morning all.
if you have read my previous posts you will know of the final stage of my fade is complete, with no longer attending meetings anymore.
with that in mind, do you have any suggestions to how to handle those conversations raised by familiy and friends about leaving?.
I am taking it your wife is still JW?...
If thats the case I think you will always have difficult conversations. In her mind you have betrayed her by cutting the 3 fold cord...and normal transmissions will not resume till you reconnect that jehovah fellow into the marriage.
Oz
after this whole thing with him talking to this other girl on fb, now he deleted me as a friend.
i have his username and password.
it's like, he doesn't want this marriage to work at all.. i don't even have it in me to argue with him.
''The problem has to be with me. He must be just reacting to what I'm doing wrong. I can't act like I'm innocent in all this. I just must not be an easy person to deal with''...
just what he wants you to think. You give him that line and he will use it till your name is doormat.
It's BOTH of your's problem
Oz
one minute i'm believing completely in god and in jesus christ, and in the next instance i'm questioning all religious systems in general.
i think i'm just lacking faith, but then in the back of my head i'm wondering if i've just been so indoctrinated and deluded...that i can't imagine living without considering that there is a god to be worshiped, or that i need to worship god in order to be happy.
i don't know how full-blown atheists or full blown christians do it either way.
Take a DEEP breath and take it from those who have been where you are now...
The important thing right now is not making stupid mistakes. In other words, stay clear of drugs, use alcahol in moderation if you must, be good to people and work hard. The rest will come. Do NOT go off and do dumb stuff and try all the previous 'forbidden' things...sometimes things are forbidden with good reason!
As for the whole belief thing, you will be adjusting that for the rest of your life so dont rush to figure it out, it doesn't really matter that much.
Life is not about what you believe in your head but about what you DO.
Too much emphasis is placed on 'the meaning of life'. There is no devine meaning. We are here, we breed. Our job is to make our life good for ourselves, those we love and those we choose to help. It is not a dress rehersal for the so called next life, so make it a good one.
Oz
attention jws of melbourne, australia!.
i see from the news tonight that sister williams has arrived in your beautiful city to compete in the australian open.
no doubt she will follow the wts advice and keep up with her spiritual routine while away from home for work and pleasure.
Perhaps she will also make the pilgramage to Sydney Bethel and dress in accord with the published dress code. Maybe she will even have lunch with my ex inlaws there after the official tour.
Oz
yesterday at 3 am my grandfather.. 95 more or less... passed away after a heart attack... i got the call at 8 am.
so i am the oldest grandson (out of 40) he was faithful, (thats what they want to say) reality is he wasnt, he cursed, he drank, he had plenty of women during his life.. he was an elder at some point and he was ultra good with everyone.
he had a heart of gold... he treated me as his son, he never cared about my status.
sorry to hear this man in your life has gone, pleased that out of all the family, it was you that probably knew him best.
It is ironic is it not that at funerals and especially obituary's that every single person just happens to be a 'loved so and so of so and so, a devoted wife/husband etc etc''
never "she was a crazy bitch who made our lives hell thank god she's gone''
And so like human nature, all the dubs will praise your grandpa as a real good faithful jw they WILL see again, not as a the drinking cussing lady killer you knew.
Oz
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at mine they didnt ask and I didnt tell.
I said I slept with a woman to end my marriage and that was that. zip the lip.
I told them I was not sorry, it was deliberate, I had no fealings of having 'hurt jehovah' ( i said the queen of england was more relevant than him and she wasnt interested either)
They asked ME what they should do so I said ''disfellowship me''
BUT at an earlier JC they were VERY interested in me telling just how sexy a lap dance was from a stripper...
(These were men who were my friends till i left the wife 2 years before)
Oz
you know, every year i see these sort of things in the news and i like to do ten.
i normally get one or two right, but it could be because they like the others in the news are generic in nature.
anyway, here we go.. 1. i predict that congress will put a sales ban on ar15 rifles and limit magazine capacity to 5 rounds.
my predictions for 201413
1. we will still not have television
2. I will continue to live under a rock regarding news media
3. I will continue to think all is well in the world because i ignore the media
4. Big shit will happen in the world and i will be the last to know
5. My little farm will gain at least 3 more goats and maybe another sheep
6. I will still be on JWN
7. I will be more active in attacking the WT
8. I will be less active in attacking the WT
9. It will be a dry winter here
10. At the end of the year I will participate in the next years predictions too
oz :)
santa barbara county sheriff's office.
december 20, 2012. michael johnson norris 67 yrs, currently has a $250,000.00 warrant for several felonies including child molestation and attempted oral copulation of a child.
norris' last known address was in the carpinteria area.
that needs to be posted on all the pro JW facebook sites.
Lets see if they pat themselves on the back with 'jah is great' over that one.
Oz
do some of the gb consciously know the truth about the truth and they just can't say it?
or are they all still under the spell?.
how about cos or dos?
I tend to agree with Phizzy
There must be somebody higher than the GB playing puppet master, perhaps not even Jws. The GB themselves probably believe their own rhetoric. You repeat the mantra long enough and it becomes 'truth'.
And even if they do believe its wrong they will also tell themselves in the same breath that there is no where else to go. For the GB that is so very true. Other than the actual perks like maybe a better apartment and travel with expenses, they have nothing to survive on outside bethel and they know it.
Oz
"true story" the circuit overseer came to our kingdom hall and read us the riot act (local needs style) "magazines of this quality are not free, they cost money and we are not generating enough donations to defray the cost of the magazines(or running the top of the line printing presses) i get my ass out of bed to place literature in the laundray cleaning, coin opperated shops and some asshole puts his apostate stickers on our magazines.
do you know how hard it is to get up at 6:00 am and how expensive those magazines are costing the organization to print?
please stop defiling our literature, i dont post hateful stickers on your website so please leave my magazines alone.
I am getting a vibe that maybe Auntconnie is a sort of 'Nelson Birdwell' on speed....
(you do remember nelson dontcha?!)
Oz
